The lives of the “The Last of Us” characters will never be the same following Joel’s death. Pedro Pascal's character took his last breath in the second episode, the people of Jackson, including Tommy (Gabriel Luna) and Ellie (Bella Ramsey), are still reeling from his loss (not to mention the show's bereft fans).

The actor discusses the aftermath of Joel’s death in Episode 3, how the scene where Tommy says goodbye evolved, and why it matters that he avoids stereotypical roles.

We spoke to The Last of Us star Gabriel Luna about Tommy becoming who he was meant to be, season two's emotional third episode, and more.